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jovan belcher could have used any number of weapons to kill his girlfriend kasandra perkins. but having a gun in the house sure made it a hell of a lot easier. in a year we have seen tragedy after tragedy, whether it be in the streets of chicago or the movie theater in colorado, we as a country seem to accept it. the gun lobby is winning. in fact, nra ceo is out fear mongering today. he's accusing bob costas of trying to piggy backing his social agenda. he told cnn he expects an unprecedented fight over gun control in congress next year, yet he would not give any specific legislative examples. he says "i think it's going to come hard, i think it's going to come fast, and i think it's going to come soon." i hope it does. i'm joined by bill rhoden, columnist of "the new york times" and dan gross, president of the brady campaign to prevent violence. gentlemen, thank you for joining us tonight. it gets a lot of attention because it's sports and it's the nfl. but dan, to comment on the comments. will he take up the fight in the near future? >> i believe it will. and i believe it w
jovan belcher could have used any number of weapons to kill his girlfriend kasandra perkins. but having a gun in the house sure made it a hell of a lot easier. in a year we have seen tragedy after tragedy, whether it be in the streets of chicago or the movie theater in colorado, we as a country seem to accept it. the gun lobby is winning. in fact, nra ceo is out fear mongering today. he's accusing bob costas of trying to piggy backing his social agenda. he told cnn he expects an unprecedented...
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our prayers and condolences go out to the family of jovan belcher. they are also grieving. >> reporter: earlier that morning belcher shot and killed his girlfriend, kasandra perkins. the couple leaves behind a 3-month-old baby. >> i know that she really was excited and loved that baby. and she's just a beautiful person inside and out. >> reporter: fans tailgated, but the shootings hung heavily over the stadium. >> it's not the celebratory atmosphere that it usually is. >> first instincts i had was what are they going to do? are they going to play the game or postpone it? >> reporter: before kickoff, a moment of silence for victims of domestic violence and their families. belcher's name was not mentioned, but it didn't have to be. >> obviously, there was some deeper issues that none of us knew about, and it's just sad that it had to happen the way he did and he couldn't get help. >> reporter: in belcher's hometown of west babylon, new york, a vigil for the former high school star whose life and another were cut short by his own hands. >> our prayers a
our prayers and condolences go out to the family of jovan belcher. they are also grieving. >> reporter: earlier that morning belcher shot and killed his girlfriend, kasandra perkins. the couple leaves behind a 3-month-old baby. >> i know that she really was excited and loved that baby. and she's just a beautiful person inside and out. >> reporter: fans tailgated, but the shootings hung heavily over the stadium. >> it's not the celebratory atmosphere that it usually is....
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police say she was shot multiple times by jovan belcher. the chief's players are confused and heart broken over this tragedy and many people are still wondering this morning why the chiefs decided to play the game at all. it was uncomfortable to say the least. belcher's agent says he like everyone else is stunned that belcher turned violent. >> the how and the why is the craziness of this. there's nothing in my relationship with him that would indicate any troubling past, anything that troubled him that would have caused him to commit such a heinous act as this and we just -- we'll never know, unfortunately. and i think that's the great debate of this. >> chiefs won the game against carolina and later in the locker room head coach spoke to the team. >> it's something really good today. really good. you overcame a lot. you stuck together as a team like we talked about. helped each other. all right? family and friends. you relied on those people. all right? you relied on your faith to help get you through this and we got through it. and in a
police say she was shot multiple times by jovan belcher. the chief's players are confused and heart broken over this tragedy and many people are still wondering this morning why the chiefs decided to play the game at all. it was uncomfortable to say the least. belcher's agent says he like everyone else is stunned that belcher turned violent. >> the how and the why is the craziness of this. there's nothing in my relationship with him that would indicate any troubling past, anything that...
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police are still investigating what lead linebacker jovan belcher to kill his girlfriend before taking his own life. police have identified belcher's girlfriend as kasandra perkins. george howell has the details. >> the kansas city chiefs are morning a fellow teammate. 25 year-old linebacker be belcher.. >> when the officers arrived they had a witnessed a black man that had held a gun up to its head. they heard gunshots and it appeared that he took his own life. >> just a few moments before the suicide he shot his girlfriend at her home. she died a short while later at an area hospital. >> recently we heard that they had been arguing. >> the team had released a statement belcher and his girlfriend kasandra perkins were living in their kansas city home with their three-month-old baby girl and belcher's mother. taken care of by family members. police are looking for a possible motive in the shootings. in response to this tragic event the oakland raiders released the following statement this morning... the oakland raiders are empathizing with the chiefs organization. our hearts are wounde
police are still investigating what lead linebacker jovan belcher to kill his girlfriend before taking his own life. police have identified belcher's girlfriend as kasandra perkins. george howell has the details. >> the kansas city chiefs are morning a fellow teammate. 25 year-old linebacker be belcher.. >> when the officers arrived they had a witnessed a black man that had held a gun up to its head. they heard gunshots and it appeared that he took his own life. >> just a few...
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in the coming days jovan belcher's actions will be an lids. but i believe in jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> reporter: a lot of people criticizing costas for using a sporting event to is suppose a political view point. some people agree with costas, others asked what kel were weapon did ovmen -- did o.j. us. some saying onl only fools blame tools. ted nugent says you tune in for a football game and you get bob could toss spewing sanctimonious dreck. megyn: the statistics are stunning. 5 million women are abused by a domestic partner every year. 85% of them are women. the domestic violence hotline receives 22,000 calls every month. gun violence is not all that common. the debate over those costas remarks, whether he was out of line or he was on the mark in just a couple minutes right here. as lawmakers face off over the nation's fiscal crisis. to claim the president's insistence on raising taxes on the wealthy is not about money or tackling our debt or deif i side --our debt or deficit i
in the coming days jovan belcher's actions will be an lids. but i believe in jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> reporter: a lot of people criticizing costas for using a sporting event to is suppose a political view point. some people agree with costas, others asked what kel were weapon did ovmen -- did o.j. us. some saying onl only fools blame tools. ted nugent says you tune in for a football game and you get bob could toss spewing...
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jovan belcher shot his girlfriend multiple times at the home they shared. then he drove to the training complex behind me and killed himself in front of several coaches who were trying to talk him out of it. police know what happened, now they're trying to figure out and investigate why it happened. that investigation is ongoing. police are not saying much else about a potential motive. >> i think everyone who has spoken out from family members to friends have all said that they were completely shocked by this. it seems so out of character. having said that, as you know, there's been at least six current or former nfl players that have committed suicide in just the past two years. murder-suicide unprecedented. however there are some people this morning who are speculating these tragedies could have been linked to undiagnosed concussion injuries. any truth to that? >> well, we don't know if there's truth to it, but it's certainly a natural area of inquiry. the nfl has been trying in the last couple of years to deal with the issue of concussions. as you menti
jovan belcher shot his girlfriend multiple times at the home they shared. then he drove to the training complex behind me and killed himself in front of several coaches who were trying to talk him out of it. police know what happened, now they're trying to figure out and investigate why it happened. that investigation is ongoing. police are not saying much else about a potential motive. >> i think everyone who has spoken out from family members to friends have all said that they were...
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absolutely shocked, though, the agent said who knew jovan belcher for a long time. back into the years when he just got out of college in maine. he said he was a very strong family man, had a close relationship with his family. he said he wasn't the type of agent who speaks with his players all the time, but he gave us a story about how jovan was such a caring person. he said during hurricane sandy, the agent lives in connecticut, jovan texted him to make sure the agent's family was doing all right in the hurricane. he said it's absolutely out of character for something like this to happen. no previous run-ins with the law that anyone's aware of. so just a lot of shock here, randi. >> and the child, the couple's child, that child was home at the time, right? who is caring for that child now? >> reporter: yeah, the child was at the home with kasandra perkins and jovan at the time of the shooting. his mother was actually, according to the neighbor, his mother had actually been in town for a couple of weeks for the holidays, and we understand that the child and the mot
absolutely shocked, though, the agent said who knew jovan belcher for a long time. back into the years when he just got out of college in maine. he said he was a very strong family man, had a close relationship with his family. he said he wasn't the type of agent who speaks with his players all the time, but he gave us a story about how jovan was such a caring person. he said during hurricane sandy, the agent lives in connecticut, jovan texted him to make sure the agent's family was doing all...
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not specifically naming jovan belcher, but certainly a lot of questions. steve brown has more in chicago with this. we heard a little bit of the 911 call before the break. how do those final moments play out at arrowhead stadium earlier on saturday morning? reporter: yes, let's put that into context. kasandra perkins was shot numerous times and fatally wounded by the father of their child. that is jovan belcher, who drove to arrowhead stadium, essentially to talk to two people. that would be head coach and general manager. neither of those two gentlemen have commented on how those final seconds played out. but police officer that was watching did watch those fateful seconds unfold. >> we have two coaches and one other employee here. [inaudible] reporter: in terms of a motive for the shooting, reportedly there was a moment country and argument about kasandra perkins's labor turn from a concert. jenna: in the meantime, what happens with the 3-month-old daughter, little zoey? reporter: in the meantime, family from austin, texas, are helping take care of her.
not specifically naming jovan belcher, but certainly a lot of questions. steve brown has more in chicago with this. we heard a little bit of the 911 call before the break. how do those final moments play out at arrowhead stadium earlier on saturday morning? reporter: yes, let's put that into context. kasandra perkins was shot numerous times and fatally wounded by the father of their child. that is jovan belcher, who drove to arrowhead stadium, essentially to talk to two people. that would be...
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saturday was not the person who jovan belcher was. he was incredibly passionate, loving individual. he enjoyed everything he did. i'll always remember him with a smile on his face. he had a huge smile, great smile, infectious smile. excuse me. that's the picture that i have of him. he cared. he loved, had such a big heart. loved so many people. and the feeling was mutual. he was loved by so many. it's an incredible tragedy and very difficult to come to grips with. >> it's difficult for many people to come to grips with. because everybody says oh, there was no history of domestic violence in his past. but there are reports out there that he did have one experience while he was at maine. do you know about that? where he became so angry, he put his fist through a wall or glass window? >> he -- there was an incident with -- where he did put his fist through a window. to me it was our freshman year. he was 18 or 19 years old. i always credited that to an immature decision, a decision that i actually have another friend who has done the sam
saturday was not the person who jovan belcher was. he was incredibly passionate, loving individual. he enjoyed everything he did. i'll always remember him with a smile on his face. he had a huge smile, great smile, infectious smile. excuse me. that's the picture that i have of him. he cared. he loved, had such a big heart. loved so many people. and the feeling was mutual. he was loved by so many. it's an incredible tragedy and very difficult to come to grips with. >> it's difficult for...
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coming up in our next hour we're going to talk to jovan belcher's agent joe linta. he's been his agent since 2009. he also represents the kansas city coach who witnessed the suicide. we'll get his take right at 8:00 this morning. first though want to get a look at some of the other stories making news. >> good morning, everybody. a member of the u.s. coast guard is dead after a suspicious boat rammed his inflatable boat during a pursuit off the coast of southern california. affiliate wabc says the suspicious boat was used to smuggle drugs. chief petty officer was one of two coast guard members thrown off on impact. he suffered a twrau matic head injury. the other coast guardsman was treated at a local hospital. the coast guard says the suspicious vessel was intercepted and the two people were detained. >>> an evacuation order remains in effect this morning in doyline, louisiana, as authorities rush to secure more than 6 million pounds of gun powder. the m-6 powder was found that camp minden. operation is under way to move the powder into authorized fasscilities on t
coming up in our next hour we're going to talk to jovan belcher's agent joe linta. he's been his agent since 2009. he also represents the kansas city coach who witnessed the suicide. we'll get his take right at 8:00 this morning. first though want to get a look at some of the other stories making news. >> good morning, everybody. a member of the u.s. coast guard is dead after a suspicious boat rammed his inflatable boat during a pursuit off the coast of southern california. affiliate wabc...
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who knows, but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe, if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> now, kevin, a lot of people could say jovan belcher could have killed his girlfriend without guns, he's listed, you go to the kansas city chiefs website, 6'2", 228. what is your take on what bob costas, very impressive sportscast, stepping into the fray. what do you make of what he said? >> in my cnn.com blog, i say we have got to get some place why violence and gun violence is not a solution for all of our issues and conflicts. i do think, you know, there is something wrong when we had over a million people killed in our country since bobby kennedy and dr. king were assassinated by guns in 1968, you know, i think we need to have tougher gun laws. i do think, you know there needs to be better security for the athletes. i've counseled a number of athletes who i cannot name, but said the reason why they carry guns is because they fear for their own safety. >> the athletes themselves. >> yeah, but the problem is when they turn around
who knows, but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe, if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> now, kevin, a lot of people could say jovan belcher could have killed his girlfriend without guns, he's listed, you go to the kansas city chiefs website, 6'2", 228. what is your take on what bob costas, very impressive sportscast, stepping into the fray. what do you make of what he said? >> in my cnn.com blog, i say we have...
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star jovan belcher and cassandra perkins. the kansas city star and the "new york post" report that belcher spent the night drinking and partying with a girl named britney glass, at a popular bar district in downtown kansas city. belcher drove miss glass home, dropped her off and passed out in misbentley. 2:50 a.m., cops woke belcher up and told him not to drive. he called glass apt spent the next four hours in her apartment. at 6:45 a.m., he drove the bentley to his home where girlfriend perkins recently arrived with her own night out with friends. argument ensued and belcher shot perkins nine times. belcher's mother and baby were there for the shooting. after killing perkins, belcher kissed the lifeless body, walk toed his mother, kissed his baby girl and left. he drove five miles to the chiefs' practice field after several minutes of pleading with him, they couldn't talk belcher off the ledge. belcher thanked the coaches, knelt down beside a car, made a sign of a cross and put a shot to his fare hoed ending his life -- fair
star jovan belcher and cassandra perkins. the kansas city star and the "new york post" report that belcher spent the night drinking and partying with a girl named britney glass, at a popular bar district in downtown kansas city. belcher drove miss glass home, dropped her off and passed out in misbentley. 2:50 a.m., cops woke belcher up and told him not to drive. he called glass apt spent the next four hours in her apartment. at 6:45 a.m., he drove the bentley to his home where...
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clearly an attempt by the chiefs to make sure that jovan belcher's girlfriend is not forgotten in all of this as a high profile nfl football player is in the midst of this tragic story. but this was a far cry from any kind of normal nfl football game on a sunday afternoon, don. the stadium was very empty, very quiet throughout much of the game. clearly not a ruccous atmosphere you would usually find at arrowhead stadium. the kansas city chiefs are known for supporting their fan despite this being a rather miserable season that the chiefs are enduring. but after the game the head coach of the football team, romeo crennel spoke to reporters. he was one of the coaches who witnessed jovan belcher killing himself at their practice facility yesterday morning. >> it is tough when circumstances happen. you can't undo them. you have to rely on each other, your family and friends and rely on your faith. and that's what the team tried to do. today we were able to do that and try to work our way through the tragedy. and knowing that it's not over today it still will go on tomorrow, the next day a
clearly an attempt by the chiefs to make sure that jovan belcher's girlfriend is not forgotten in all of this as a high profile nfl football player is in the midst of this tragic story. but this was a far cry from any kind of normal nfl football game on a sunday afternoon, don. the stadium was very empty, very quiet throughout much of the game. clearly not a ruccous atmosphere you would usually find at arrowhead stadium. the kansas city chiefs are known for supporting their fan despite this...
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we have disturbing new details in the murder-suicide case of nfl player jovan belcher. police tell "the kansas city star" that belcher's mother saw him kiss his girlfriend on the forehead saying he was sorry. seconds after he shot her on saturday. he also kissed his baby daughter and apologized to his own mother. >> kansas city police say belcher legally owned the handgun that he used to kill kasandra perkins and then himself there. are no official numbers, but some players and coaches say 50% to 90% of nfl players own guns. jim axelrod looks at why athletes and firearms go together so often. >> i'm 21 years old, i have a lot of money in one pocket and a gun in the other pocket and i'm saying please leave me alone. >> reporter: this is former pro football player marcellus wiley, a gun control advocate speaking three years ago at the brady center about why he used to carry a gun. >> i remember taking the same gun to the nightclubs, to the restaurants where i would go eat. not to be a villain, but just really in a warped sense of mind, an identity trying to protect myself
we have disturbing new details in the murder-suicide case of nfl player jovan belcher. police tell "the kansas city star" that belcher's mother saw him kiss his girlfriend on the forehead saying he was sorry. seconds after he shot her on saturday. he also kissed his baby daughter and apologized to his own mother. >> kansas city police say belcher legally owned the handgun that he used to kill kasandra perkins and then himself there. are no official numbers, but some players and...
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we have confirmed, now, that jovan belcher use the one gun to kill his girlfriend and another gun to kill himself. as you said earlier we have finally confirmed that he did, in fact, shoot kasandra perkins nine times before going to the stadium and shooting himself. >>shepard: thank yous -- thank you, trace. and agencies are reporting that the head coach of the badgers in wisconsin has been stolen away by the university of arkansas is going to arkansas to fill that series of weird vacancies they were dealing with in arkansas, leaving wisconsin badgers and going to arkansas. >> identity thieves could be trying to get their hands on your tabs return, a sharp increase in the number of scanners filing fraudulent returns. science and technology editor is with us now. it looks like they have stolen tens of thousands of people's refunds. >>guest: potentially billions. part of the problem, is identifying that there is a problem. the i.r.s. says they do not know the extent of the problem and it is hard if them to track and identify that something like this is happening. >>shepard: explain wha
we have confirmed, now, that jovan belcher use the one gun to kill his girlfriend and another gun to kill himself. as you said earlier we have finally confirmed that he did, in fact, shoot kasandra perkins nine times before going to the stadium and shooting himself. >>shepard: thank yous -- thank you, trace. and agencies are reporting that the head coach of the badgers in wisconsin has been stolen away by the university of arkansas is going to arkansas to fill that series of weird...
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jovan belcher's murder/suicide led to another controversy for the nfl this year. the league that has dealt with deaths of current and former players, concussions, high profile lawsuit and bounties. the question on sunday, should the chiefs have played the game with carolina just a day after belcher and kasandra perkins' deaths. that's just one topic that nfl commissioner roger goodell addresses in this issue of "time" magazine. the senior editor wrote the piece and joins us now. welcome. >> good morning, carol. >> so what did the commissioner tell you about belcher and the decision to play the game on sunday? >> yeah. you know, his reaction was -- he was stunned. he gets a phone call from his director of security and hearing the details and he can't believe what he's hearing. he starts to hit the phones and he knew that there was pressure not to play the game and there were thoughts on that side. you know, he reached out to the chairman of the chiefs and told them to please seek feedback from the players. he basically deferred to the players. the feedback he was g
jovan belcher's murder/suicide led to another controversy for the nfl this year. the league that has dealt with deaths of current and former players, concussions, high profile lawsuit and bounties. the question on sunday, should the chiefs have played the game with carolina just a day after belcher and kasandra perkins' deaths. that's just one topic that nfl commissioner roger goodell addresses in this issue of "time" magazine. the senior editor wrote the piece and joins us now....
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the nfl steps in with a million dollars for jovan belcher's orphan daughter and high resolution images of your planet earth from space. the new technology uses filtering techniques that allows the images such as city lights, gas flares, auroras, wildfires and reflecting moonlight to be seen by the naked eye. ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i don't think so. [ male announcer ] for years, bob took warfarin, and made a monthly trip to the clinic to get his blood tested. but not anymore. bob's doctor recommended a different option: once-a-day xarelto®. xarelto® is the first and only once-a-day prescription blood thinner for patients with afib not caused by a heart valve problem, t
the nfl steps in with a million dollars for jovan belcher's orphan daughter and high resolution images of your planet earth from space. the new technology uses filtering techniques that allows the images such as city lights, gas flares, auroras, wildfires and reflecting moonlight to be seen by the naked eye. ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who...
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first up tragedy in the nfl after kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher murdered his girlfriend before shooting and killing himself. as a result, the gun control debate back in the spotlight but with more gun regulation actually have made any difference at all? here now is deputy editor of think progress.org and nationally syndicated radio talk show host. lars i'm a second amendment guy. to me guns don't kill people crazy people shooting guns kill people. would a gun regulation have stopped this tragedy? >> only one kind of gun regulation would have stopped this and that would be to gut the second amendment and i don't think igor can reject that. 20,000 laws around the country regulate guns at the state, federal and local level. those laws sometimes are forced a and sometimes not. this young man there was no reason legally to deny him the ownership of a firearm. so the suggestion by bob costas who ought to be fired for the comments, his outrageous suggestion that the civil rights of americans all 300 million of us should be taken away and we should be denied the right to own a g
first up tragedy in the nfl after kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher murdered his girlfriend before shooting and killing himself. as a result, the gun control debate back in the spotlight but with more gun regulation actually have made any difference at all? here now is deputy editor of think progress.org and nationally syndicated radio talk show host. lars i'm a second amendment guy. to me guns don't kill people crazy people shooting guns kill people. would a gun regulation have...
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in the coming days, jov jovan belcher's action will be analyzed. who knows, but here is what i believe, if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasndra perkins would both be alive today. mike huckabee rewrote what he said but attributed tos could stas. he went on several minutes trying to make the case for gun control saying that if we had only had handgun control, then this crime never would have happened. of course, bob costas never mentioned the phrase gun control, you heard him, or add voe indicated any change in law on his nbc football show. that is not what he just heard. and every word that mike huckabee and herman cain didn't like was actually written by, as bob costas notes, fox sports columnist jason whitlock. when you read the environmental tire tea of jason's piece, which is the first article that i've read about football this year, you can be see that bob costas chose to quote it carefully, specifically leaving out the part on his show the part where jason whitlock does get political and eloquently so here's part of what he did n
in the coming days, jov jovan belcher's action will be analyzed. who knows, but here is what i believe, if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasndra perkins would both be alive today. mike huckabee rewrote what he said but attributed tos could stas. he went on several minutes trying to make the case for gun control saying that if we had only had handgun control, then this crime never would have happened. of course, bob costas never mentioned the phrase gun control, you heard him, or...
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. >>> the family of jovan belcher is speaking publically for the first time since he fatally shot his girl friend and killed himself. belcher's sister and uncle stood by his aunt as she spoke outside the home where the football star lived with 22-year-old kasandra perkins and their 3-month-old daughter. >> we will cherish the wonderful memories we have of javon and pray those memory also bring us peace as we grapple to understand the unpredictable and tragic ending of his life and the life of kasandra perkins. >> kansas city police confirm that the gun used by belcher was purchased legally. belcher's mother has been given temporary custody of the couple's daughter, zoe. >> a picture of suspect george zimmerman released by his attorney reportedly taken by a police officer the night zimmerman shot and killed martin. the bloody picture itself is not new, but the fact it's a high resolution color photo is. zimmerman's attorney says it gives the case more context. >> is it devastating? no. but it's just one piece of evidence that shows what george was going through that night and why he re
. >>> the family of jovan belcher is speaking publically for the first time since he fatally shot his girl friend and killed himself. belcher's sister and uncle stood by his aunt as she spoke outside the home where the football star lived with 22-year-old kasandra perkins and their 3-month-old daughter. >> we will cherish the wonderful memories we have of javon and pray those memory also bring us peace as we grapple to understand the unpredictable and tragic ending of his life...
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david, let me ask you, i suppose an obvious question, why did jovan belcher need a high powered hand gun? >> well, he didn't need any hand gun to kill, to murder his wife and leave the poor baby as an orphan. o.j. simpson showed that football players like lots of other domestic abusers, can kill people with their bare hands. >> right, but why does anybody in america need either a hand gun or high powered assault weapon? i don't understand. explain to me. >> i don't think the police have released what kind of hand gun he owned. do you know what kind he owned? why are you calling it a high powered hand gun? >> wl, i'm assuming most hand guns are high powered, right? >> so you call it high powered hand gun by which you mean a normal hand gun and i don't know why he owned a hand gun. we know according to the "new york times" most football -- most nfl players according to the "new york times" own firearms for protection, for the same reason that everybody else, that half the households in america own firearms for lawful protection. you know, you talk about -- >> right, but there is, as yo
david, let me ask you, i suppose an obvious question, why did jovan belcher need a high powered hand gun? >> well, he didn't need any hand gun to kill, to murder his wife and leave the poor baby as an orphan. o.j. simpson showed that football players like lots of other domestic abusers, can kill people with their bare hands. >> right, but why does anybody in america need either a hand gun or high powered assault weapon? i don't understand. explain to me. >> i don't think the...
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>> there's been some talk about some troubles in the relationship between jovan belcher and his girlfriend okay sandra p -- okcassandra perkins. >> there were talks about whether the chiefs would go ahead with the game. for the coach and for the team, everybody is still scratching their heads because the coach witnessing jovan belcher taking his own life. >> imagine the situation. a day before a game, general manager of the team, coach and assistant coach were trying to talk to belcher, trying to talk him out of what he was about to do. he was holding a gun. none of them felt threatened. they knew he was there not to harm anybody else. he came to thank them for the opportunity that they had given him to be in the nfl and after they tried to talk him out of this act he turned around walked away from them and shot himself in front of all of them and then less than 24 hours later they find themselves getting ready to play a football game. >> a lot more questions than answer. it's no secret some senate republicans would try to prevent susan fries becoming the next secretary of state. apparentl
>> there's been some talk about some troubles in the relationship between jovan belcher and his girlfriend okay sandra p -- okcassandra perkins. >> there were talks about whether the chiefs would go ahead with the game. for the coach and for the team, everybody is still scratching their heads because the coach witnessing jovan belcher taking his own life. >> imagine the situation. a day before a game, general manager of the team, coach and assistant coach were trying to talk...
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. >>> also this half hour, the latest on the jovan belcher tragedy. the people closest to the nfl linebacker and the girlfriend he killed are speaking out now about the shocking murder suicide. we are also going to talk about a report that came in, "the new york post"over night, that gave details to what he was doing hours before the murder. very, very interesting. >>> later this half hour, magic man, our polkameister, sitting down with penn jillette to talk about harry houdini, magic, and familia. >>> kate middleton spending a second day in the london hospital and prince william has been at his pregnant wife's side as she is treated for severe morning sickness. >> the palace ended speculation about the duchess yesterday, confirming she is expecting. abc's nick schifrin joining us live from london. good morning, nick. >> reporter: good morning, paula. good morning, rob. what an exciting morning it is here. kates had her belly stared at, her every action scrutinized since the wedding, and now all of those people who have been incorrectly guessing she w
. >>> also this half hour, the latest on the jovan belcher tragedy. the people closest to the nfl linebacker and the girlfriend he killed are speaking out now about the shocking murder suicide. we are also going to talk about a report that came in, "the new york post"over night, that gave details to what he was doing hours before the murder. very, very interesting. >>> later this half hour, magic man, our polkameister, sitting down with penn jillette to talk about...
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>>> new details in the murder/suicide involving kansas city chiefs player jovan belcher. what the 911 tapes reveal about the final moments of this slain girlfriend. >> a lot to talk about this morning over our next two hours. we will be talking with stephanie cutter, the former companisy campaign manager of president obama's re-election campaign. howard kurtz the host of "cnn's reliable sources" lauren ashburn, republican from texas, congressman jeb hensarling with us, randy weingarten, president of the american federation of teachers. all guests this morning. wednesday, december 5th, and "starting point" begins right now. >>> our "starting point" this morning, president obama putting his foot down. he says no tax hikes for the wealthy, no deal. america hits that fiscal cliff in 27 days and that means tax hikes and deep spending cuts if the democrats and the republicans can't come together in some kind of a deal and with just ten days remaining until congress is scheduled to go home for the holidays, the clock ticking. here's what he told bloomberg news. listen. >> we're
>>> new details in the murder/suicide involving kansas city chiefs player jovan belcher. what the 911 tapes reveal about the final moments of this slain girlfriend. >> a lot to talk about this morning over our next two hours. we will be talking with stephanie cutter, the former companisy campaign manager of president obama's re-election campaign. howard kurtz the host of "cnn's reliable sources" lauren ashburn, republican from texas, congressman jeb hensarling with us,...
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. >> also today authorities are trying to figure out what drove nfl player jovan belcher to kill his girlfriend and then himself on saturday morning. friends and relatives of the couple said their relationship was strained and briefly lived apart last month but had just gotten back together. the two have a 3-month-old daughter. belcher's team the kansas city chiefs held a moment of silence at yesterday's game. the head coach says the game was an escape from the pain. >> after talking with the captains they also felt like it was best that we play if for no other reason it takes your mind off our misery for a few hours, and so that's what it did. ♪ so will bounty select-a-size. it's the smaller powerful sheet. the only one with trap + lock technology. look! one select-a-size sheet of bounty is 50% more absorbent than a full size sheet of the leading ordinary brand. use less. with the small but powerful picker upper, bounty select-a-size. you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visi
. >> also today authorities are trying to figure out what drove nfl player jovan belcher to kill his girlfriend and then himself on saturday morning. friends and relatives of the couple said their relationship was strained and briefly lived apart last month but had just gotten back together. the two have a 3-month-old daughter. belcher's team the kansas city chiefs held a moment of silence at yesterday's game. the head coach says the game was an escape from the pain. >> after...
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they have now identified the name of that player, jovan belcher is what we're getting according to the associated press. more details from elizabeth as the day continues. again, a very sad story to report, a 25-year-old player from the kansas city chief commits suicide in front of the general manager and his coach after allegedly killing his girlfriend. still under investigation. kelly. >> kelly: for northern california bracing for another round much severe storms 24 hours after getting slammed by heavy rain and strong winds and the area is now gearing up for a second lashing. and a third storm is moving in tomorrow morning. already, the weather is left thousands in the dark and left massive delays on roads and airports, but the biggest concern is flooding. >> and it's an amazing amount of water in the time we had and if we've got three more days of this there's no way that the banks are going to hold that, no way. >> the flood water, it's pouring a foot high over this, this embankment right here. >> the amount of rain that was hitting at that hour, we had an unbelievable amount of rai
they have now identified the name of that player, jovan belcher is what we're getting according to the associated press. more details from elizabeth as the day continues. again, a very sad story to report, a 25-year-old player from the kansas city chief commits suicide in front of the general manager and his coach after allegedly killing his girlfriend. still under investigation. kelly. >> kelly: for northern california bracing for another round much severe storms 24 hours after getting...
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appreciate it very, very much. >> you got it. >> tough issue. >> again, with jovan belcher, no way to link it to the brain issue but an important issue to talk about, absolutely. >>> it's a picture that went viral and we only knew half the story. now the rest is revealed. new details of the homeless man the police officer and a touching act of kindness. >>> people all over the world ha been touched by the photograph of a good deed. >> in the picture of a policeman giving shoes to a homeless man not only went viral, people wanted to know about the man the man was helping. mary, what have you learned? >> well, he lived on the streets until that photograph circulated and it's made its way to a relative who says he was stunned when he realized who was in that f photo. it was a photo that captured interest around the globe. officer lawrence diprimo buying boots for a barefoot homeless man. the officer swarmed by the immedia media, the man went nameless until now. we know him to be jeffrey hillman, age 54. his brother said he was pained to recognize his brother in the photo. >> call me, thi
appreciate it very, very much. >> you got it. >> tough issue. >> again, with jovan belcher, no way to link it to the brain issue but an important issue to talk about, absolutely. >>> it's a picture that went viral and we only knew half the story. now the rest is revealed. new details of the homeless man the police officer and a touching act of kindness. >>> people all over the world ha been touched by the photograph of a good deed. >> in the picture of...
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in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows? but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe, if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and cassandra perkins would both be alive today. >> steve: so there is mr. costas lecturing america on gun control. it's interesting, i saw one blogger say if he didn't blame guns, he would have to talk about the consequences of his multiple head injuries, drugs and rage. why didn't he talk about that? because it would be bad for the nfl. >> brian: i got a tweet that said, don't blame bob costas, blame the microphone. [ laughter ] >> gretchen: here is the thing about domestic violence, which i fortunately learned a lot about after doing a 30-part series on it when i worked in dallas. there is a lot of misinformation about this particular situation. and trust me, in domestic violence situations, if people want to hurt somebody, they're going to use whatever they have at that particular moment. so it could have been a knife, their own hands. i mean, who knows? so i think it's a littl
in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows? but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe, if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and cassandra perkins would both be alive today. >> steve: so there is mr. costas lecturing america on gun control. it's interesting, i saw one blogger say if he didn't blame guns, he would have to talk about the consequences of his multiple head injuries, drugs and rage. why didn't...
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the murder suicide of jovan belcher has started the fire storm. >> in the coming days, belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows? but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe. if belcher didn't possess a gun, he and perkins would both be alive today. > >> greta: costas was quoting jason whitlock. immediately after he spoke, twitter blowing up with reaction. herman cain tweeting you tune in to a football game and listen to bob costas spewing sang t sancts drek. >> where are we headed? bob costas deserves to be fired for these remarks. >> he's allowed to have his opinion. yes, he's allowed to go there. >> we want to ban guns because the gun kills the person, not the person pulling the trigger. >> you want to get a political lecture by the rantings on the left, i suggest that bob costas could have worked for msnbc. >> jason whitlock's right. if there's no gun here, nobody's dead. i don't know what the issue is to take issue with. >> i don't get the sense he was calling for specific legislation or saying here's what we should do. >> how come
the murder suicide of jovan belcher has started the fire storm. >> in the coming days, belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows? but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe. if belcher didn't possess a gun, he and perkins would both be alive today. > >> greta: costas was quoting jason whitlock. immediately after he spoke, twitter blowing up with reaction. herman cain tweeting you tune in to a football game and listen to bob...
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in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows but here is what i believe. if jovan belcher did not possess a gun he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> some critics saying costas picked the wrong time and place and others blast him for trying to take away their second amendment rights. now the blogs are light iing up with calls for him to be fired. quote, nbc should show bob costas the door. then there's this facebook page. fire bob costas for his unamerican comments on gun control. hln sports reporter joe carter is here to talk about all of this. what did he say in his own defense? >> i found several fire bob costas facebook pages with lots of likes. he went on the shows yesterday morning and defended himself and said that he did admit he made a mistake, that he used wrong forum to take on such a heavy-handed topic, that he should have listened to his own rule which is when you take on a topic as politically charged as gun control, leave yourself enough time to fully flush out that topic. and as we know
in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows but here is what i believe. if jovan belcher did not possess a gun he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> some critics saying costas picked the wrong time and place and others blast him for trying to take away their second amendment rights. now the blogs are light iing up with calls for him to be fired. quote, nbc should show bob costas the door. then there's this...
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belcher. listen as he quotes extensively from foxsports.com writer jason whitlock. >> our current gun culture, whitlock wrote, ensures more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy and more convenient store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenager boys bloodied and dead. handguns do not enhance our safety. they exacerbate our flaws, bait us in to embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it. in the coming days, belcher's action and the connection to football will be analyzed. who knows, but here wrote jason whitlock is what i believe. if belcher didn't process a gun, he and perkins would be alive today. >> bret: news busters said costas entitled to his opinion but does he have to give it during halftime of a nationally televised game? critics who say political bias turns up in college classrooms have a big number to back up the case. the web site campus reform looked to federal election records from open secrets.org and found 96% of donati
belcher. listen as he quotes extensively from foxsports.com writer jason whitlock. >> our current gun culture, whitlock wrote, ensures more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy and more convenient store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenager boys bloodied and dead. handguns do not enhance our safety. they exacerbate our flaws, bait us in to embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it. in the coming days, belcher's action and...
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. >> eliot: when kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher murdered kasandra perkins last weekend and then shot himself it did not happen in a vacuum. there are $30,000 done deaths a year, doing nothing about this is one thing that clearly makes no sense. which begs the question why is government doing nothing when it comes to guns. here to talk to us about possible solutions is john rosenthal, co-founder of stop handgun violence and the american hunters and shooters association, an alternative to nra for moderate gun owners. thank you for joining us. >> thank you eliot. >> eliot: the frustration we've felt for years in response to gun violence. in the context of all that has happened, the lack of action, what is your agenda, and how do you plan to make it real. >> it's no different than it has been the better part of 20 years. i'm a gun owner. i'm a business person. i believe in the second amendment and the right to bear arms but the founders never extended that the second amendment extend to terrorists and criminals to buy guns without even a background check. toy guns and teddy bea
. >> eliot: when kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher murdered kasandra perkins last weekend and then shot himself it did not happen in a vacuum. there are $30,000 done deaths a year, doing nothing about this is one thing that clearly makes no sense. which begs the question why is government doing nothing when it comes to guns. here to talk to us about possible solutions is john rosenthal, co-founder of stop handgun violence and the american hunters and shooters association, an...
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belcher and his girlfriend. he said -- >> bret: others see hypocrisy in the gun control monologue. the site notes that costas lives much of his life with the benefit of armed security. men with guns. the author writes when they went on the rant against guns he showed himself to be a hypocrite of the highest orde order. he joined other numerous elitists who live by the standard of do as i say, not as i do. belcher's grieving teammates refuse to blame guns for tragic event. the new york daily news say a pair of players one schaefering thanksgiving dinner with belcher who insists the protection of guns is necessary and most people own them. they called it a mistake saying that my mistake is i left it for too much communication in the short segment. rather than properly discussing the football culture the gun culture and domestic violence. costas says he does not favor appeal of the second amendment. >> bret: it's been a month since the campaign ended but vice president asheel ghafoor js gaffes are continuing. he se
belcher and his girlfriend. he said -- >> bret: others see hypocrisy in the gun control monologue. the site notes that costas lives much of his life with the benefit of armed security. men with guns. the author writes when they went on the rant against guns he showed himself to be a hypocrite of the highest orde order. he joined other numerous elitists who live by the standard of do as i say, not as i do. belcher's grieving teammates refuse to blame guns for tragic event. the new york...
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. >> yesterday we learned that jovan belcher of the kansas chiefs killed his girlfriend and then killed himself. what do you think about the chiefs going ahead with the game today and the struggle that was going on with this man? hussein? >> i couldn't imagine, i really couldn't. my junior year in college, before we played the game versus the oregon ducks, i found out that my mother-in-law passed away in a car crash. and it still -- it still rattles me to this day and there was no airline flight i could get to be there and i had to play in that game. i really wasn't there, my body was there, but my mind wasn't there at all. and it wreally was a surreal experience, so today, those players, those coaches, those fans, knowing that that happened, the guy that they just practiced with yesterday. knowing that he did it at that facility, i can't imagine what they're going through. all of our prayers and all of our hearts go out to them. >> certainly an inspiration to so many people who want more in their lives than perhaps just their day job. you will love more about the abdullah brothers on o
. >> yesterday we learned that jovan belcher of the kansas chiefs killed his girlfriend and then killed himself. what do you think about the chiefs going ahead with the game today and the struggle that was going on with this man? hussein? >> i couldn't imagine, i really couldn't. my junior year in college, before we played the game versus the oregon ducks, i found out that my mother-in-law passed away in a car crash. and it still -- it still rattles me to this day and there was no...
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belcher committed a murder/suicide and also reportedly suffered from traumatic brain injury potentially from being obviously hit in the head, concussions are another problem in the nfl all together but how do we keep the guns out of the hands of people who might have these kinds of issues? >> this is always going to be difficult because in this country we believe in your right to own a gun and what we don't want to do is compromise the rights of law-abiding citizens. i think what we have to be very careful and where bob costas was wrong he tried to leverage a very emotional event to promote a certain philosophical point that he has at a time when that wasn't the right discussion. i think these are important issues. they're difficult issues and they should be discussed in washington but not at the time of a tragedy where somebody is trying to leverage the emotions out there. >> tea partiers are using the gun issue to rally the base. rand paul said "only hours after re-election barack obama immediately made a move for gun control on november 7th his administration gleefully voted at the u
belcher committed a murder/suicide and also reportedly suffered from traumatic brain injury potentially from being obviously hit in the head, concussions are another problem in the nfl all together but how do we keep the guns out of the hands of people who might have these kinds of issues? >> this is always going to be difficult because in this country we believe in your right to own a gun and what we don't want to do is compromise the rights of law-abiding citizens. i think what we have...
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. >>> we have new information about the nfl player jovan belcher. apparently just hours before he shot and killed his girlfriend, tops our look at the stories around the news nation today. officers reposponded to a 911 cl five hours before the murder-suicide. police say they let belcher go. he did not appear to be intoxicated. nbc sports commentator bob costas responding after a firestorm of criticism in the sunday night commentary. he talked about guns saying he wished he had more time to talk about the issues surrounding belcher and perkins' death. >> what i was talking about here, and i'm sorry if that wasn't clear to everybody, was a gun culture. i never mentioned the 2nd amendment or used the words gun control. people inferred that. do i believe we need more comprehensive and sensible gun control legislation? yes, do. that doesn't mean repeal the 2nd amendment. >>> and bank giant citigroup is cutting 11,000 jobs worldwide. this decision is part of a company's restructuring. and will save they say $1.1 million a year in expenses. it's the first
. >>> we have new information about the nfl player jovan belcher. apparently just hours before he shot and killed his girlfriend, tops our look at the stories around the news nation today. officers reposponded to a 911 cl five hours before the murder-suicide. police say they let belcher go. he did not appear to be intoxicated. nbc sports commentator bob costas responding after a firestorm of criticism in the sunday night commentary. he talked about guns saying he wished he had more...
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new details about the final hours of jovan belcher apartments life. he spent the night with another woman before going home in the morning fighting with his girlfriend, cassandra perkins and shooting her repeatedly. many people report he was drunk the night before and spent the night at the home of another woman. dr. keith ablow is here. take us through the details. he fell asleep in his car outside the home of another woman, woken by the police inside the car, went inside the building, spent the night there and then in the morning he went home. when he went home is when all this happened. put it together. >> there is a little girl with no parents, there has been a murder and suicide. now comes the task of trying to explain what might seem to be the inexplicable. what we do know seemingly is there a long tphaoeuft drink involved, perhaps there is another woman involved. what we do know is that this fellow has a history of violent altercations with women. back in 2006 and 2007 one involved breaking a window, nearly severing his thumb and cutting his wr
new details about the final hours of jovan belcher apartments life. he spent the night with another woman before going home in the morning fighting with his girlfriend, cassandra perkins and shooting her repeatedly. many people report he was drunk the night before and spent the night at the home of another woman. dr. keith ablow is here. take us through the details. he fell asleep in his car outside the home of another woman, woken by the police inside the car, went inside the building, spent...
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. >> jovan belcher's daughter will get about $1 million from the nfl. the linebacker killed her mother and then killed himself. she will keep getting paid if she goes to college. right now her grandmother is caring for her. >> kobe bryant made history last night. he is the youngest player ever to score 30,000 points. he's only 34 years old. now he's in a very exclusive club. just four our guys have hit 40,000, kareem abdul-jabbar, michael jordan and wilt chamberlain. >> and why is this dog out for a sunday drive? we'll show you in "down to the wire" coming up in 15 minutes. >> another sign the banking industry in america is being permanently reshaped. huge cuts at citibank. how deep are these cuts and what's the industry saying about it? >> chris, citi said it's cutting 4% of its workforce. investors are thinking this is a the first in a series of steps that will shrink the bank to a more manageable and profitable size. the news not a total shot to the market. >> it also kind of feels, maybe because i live in new york, like there's a starbucks on every
. >> jovan belcher's daughter will get about $1 million from the nfl. the linebacker killed her mother and then killed himself. she will keep getting paid if she goes to college. right now her grandmother is caring for her. >> kobe bryant made history last night. he is the youngest player ever to score 30,000 points. he's only 34 years old. now he's in a very exclusive club. just four our guys have hit 40,000, kareem abdul-jabbar, michael jordan and wilt chamberlain. >> and...
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all of this despite the tragedy at the chiefs arrowhead stadium when linebacker jovan belcher killed himself in the parking lot after killing his girlfriend. >>> as the country edges closer to the fiscal cliff, both sides are digging in their heels on a major sticking point. tax rates for the wealthy. treasury secretary timothy geithner making the rounds on the sunday morning talk shows today, and once again, made it clear that white house will reject any deal that does not let the bush tax cuts expire for high earners. >> if republicans are not willing to let rates go back up, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, at a time when the american economy was to be exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> joining me, former pennsylvania governor and nbc news political analyst, ed rendell and the co-chair of the campaign to fix the debt here in new york, republican strategist, susan purcell. good afternoon to both of you. governor we'll start with you, both sides seem to be standing firm over what they want out of the fiscal cliff deal this morning. thi
all of this despite the tragedy at the chiefs arrowhead stadium when linebacker jovan belcher killed himself in the parking lot after killing his girlfriend. >>> as the country edges closer to the fiscal cliff, both sides are digging in their heels on a major sticking point. tax rates for the wealthy. treasury secretary timothy geithner making the rounds on the sunday morning talk shows today, and once again, made it clear that white house will reject any deal that does not let the...
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jovan belcher shot and killed his 22-year-old girlfriend in their home and belcher's mother and three month old daughter in another room and he then drove to the chiefs practice facility and met up with the head coach and general manager there before turning away and taking his own life in front of them. >> if you can take your worst nightmare and then put somebody that you know and love into that situation a give them a gun and stand three feet away from them and watch them kill themselves, that's what it's like. it's unfathomable. >> police did not release a motive, but he and his girlfriend had been arguing frequently. he was just 25 years old. >> could a broken signal cause this train to derail. it stopped for a ligred light ad got the approved to go. and investigators are looking into the signal issues may have led to the crash. well, first they ran out of gas while trying to steal gas and two would-be thieves led key efforts. >> i think on the world's dumbest criminals, first you run out of fuel and then leave your truck behind. >> they were trying to steal gas from a golf cours
jovan belcher shot and killed his 22-year-old girlfriend in their home and belcher's mother and three month old daughter in another room and he then drove to the chiefs practice facility and met up with the head coach and general manager there before turning away and taking his own life in front of them. >> if you can take your worst nightmare and then put somebody that you know and love into that situation a give them a gun and stand three feet away from them and watch them kill...